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And thank you for your service.
It takes a lot to shock the sensibilities of the Trump Administration, or to indulge in language offensive to a career marine, but he seems to have done so. It may be that the Rahm Emanuel school of decorum is going out of style.
iris lilies
7-31-17, 5:12pm
Why is he a Mooch?
The turnover of this administration is, um, I dont have words. A military man in the White House isnt the answer. But that will be interesting. Bannon and Kelly, I would like to hear those discussions.
Why is he a Mooch?
I think it's just a nickname--Scara-MOOCH-i.
He may not be a mooch, but he's a ... well, as Auntie Em in the Wizard of Oz said... "being a Christian woman, I can't say it."
Why is he a Mooch?
Well, I don't know if he's *a* Mooch, but he calls himself "The Mooch", apparently.
It must be a terribly difficult time to be a writer for SNL, or The Onion.
I loved the touch of his wife filing for divorce the week he took the job. Moments before she gave birth.
I know. He must really be awful.
Ultralight
7-31-17, 5:59pm
I know. He must really be awful.
I bet she is pretty awful too, to marry and breed with a guy like him.
But hey, she walks away with the cash and prizes! Beats workin'!
This TV program offs characters faster than Game of Thrones!
This TV program offs characters faster than Game of Thrones!
It's like Big Brother. Someone has to be evicted every week.
I think it's just a nickname--Scara-MOOCH-i.
He may not be a mooch, but he's a ... well, as Auntie Em in the Wizard of Oz said... "being a Christian woman, I can't say it."
And this the same week that Siri learned the words to Bohemian Rhapsody. "Scaramooch, Scaramooch, will you do the fandango? Thunderbolt and lightning, very very frightening, me!" I wonder if the song was Fredie Mercury somehow predicting this ten days of the trump administration.
And this the same week that Siri learned the words to Bohemian Rhapsody. "Scaramooch, Scaramooch, will you do the fandango? Thunderbolt and lightning, very very frightening, me!" I wonder if the song was Fredie Mercury somehow predicting this ten days of the trump administration.
Hmmm.. who knows! Freddie Mercury definitely had some serious insights...
Hmmm.. who knows! Freddie Mercury definitely had some serious insights...
Siri can be very insightful too! Her deadpan recitation of the song (ask her "I see a little silhouetto of a man") has made me think that perhaps she's profoundly wise.
Williamsmith
7-31-17, 11:33pm
North Korea and Health Care. Does anyone see the elephant in the elephants room?
North Korea and Health Care. Does anyone see the elephant in the elephants room?
Yes. Healthcare can get dragged out indefinitely. A few ten thousand Americans dying slow ugly unnecessary deaths isn't noteworthy. North Korea can't get dragged out forever. Having someone so inexperienced and so snowflakish in the position of president terrifies me with regard to that because I have no idea how he's going to handle this issue. I'd like to think that more experienced heads will prevail over his worse instincts, but he's done a pretty good job of getting rid of anyone competent and surrounding himself with people who are even stupider than he is. All I can say is thank god I don't live in Seoul.
flowerseverywhere
8-1-17, 6:32am
North Korea and Health Care. Does anyone see the elephant in the elephants room?
all distractions, drama, shock and awe.
I don't for one minute doubt that most agree tax reform, health care, the deficit, immigration, welfare programs, plus a host of other issues need addressing. But it seems to me that most of those in charge do not have the priorities of the American people in mind. It seems all about getting richer, having more power, getting your cronies and friends in a good position and to hell with anyone who falls by the wayside. It is your fault, you know, that you weren't a white male born into wealth.
North Korea and Health Care. Does anyone see the elephant in the elephants room?
Let's not for get climate change.
As Bae would say, Ordo Ab Chao. Both parties are long overdue for a big shake up. The dems are still trying to put humpty dumpty back together and the GOP is basically dead for the near future and is in denial of Trump's weeknesses. Meanwhile, the president himself is governing by deal making and intimidation. It's a fine mess we're in Ollie.
The Mooch is basically a **** ****. Good riddance. I say bring back Spicey. He's a little daft, but you pretty much knew what you were getting. And never let Trump speak to the Boy Scouts again!
Oh dear. What I see is an amazing demonstration of the power of very ordinary people by the very ordinary people in full technicolour. Do we make bad choices in our daily lives? Yes, each of us does every day.
Compare the transparency of the White House with all its challenges and the response of the US population to:
- the Assad regime and its cruelty on its own population
- the turbulence in Turkey
- the chaos in Kenya
- struggles in Venezuela
- secrecy in Russia
- the starvation in northern African countries
- controls in the Mid-East royal regimes
- and so on.
Are we perfect anywhere at present? No, but when challenges are brought to the surface and exposed to public scrutiny, decisions based on selecting the best option at the time are necessary. There is tremendous intelligence in so many levels and demands on being made to set aside personal agendas for the common good; more about personal responsibility along with individual freedom. I firmly believe in humanity with all its warts. I have seen too much of the good to ever doubt that.
Yes. Healthcare can get dragged out indefinitely. A few ten thousand Americans dying slow ugly unnecessary deaths isn't noteworthy. North Korea can't get dragged out forever. Having someone so inexperienced and so snowflakish in the position of president terrifies me with regard to that because I have no idea how he's going to handle this issue. I'd like to think that more experienced heads will prevail over his worse instincts, but he's done a pretty good job of getting rid of anyone competent and surrounding himself with people who are even stupider than he is. All I can say is thank god I don't live in Seoul.
I don't think you need to worry about bodies littering the streets for lack of Obama's healing touch. The new entitlement has taken root like Canada Thistle. Some form of government monopoly or near-monopoly seems inevitable at this point.
As to the Peoples Democratic Republic, I'm not sure substituting genius for incompetence would move the needle much there. The remaining communist holdouts such as Cuba or NK seem to have reverted to a sort of medieval dynastic model pretty much immune to reason, bribes or threats. It's hard to see any amount of diplomatic finesse having much impact. Probably the best we can hope for is to tinker with missile defense systems and containment until the starving peasants decide there's nothing left to lose. I feel bad for Seoul, but if you build your house on a flood plain, you're almost certainly going to get wet.
Oh dear. What I see is an amazing demonstration of the power of very ordinary people by the very ordinary people in full technicolour. Do we make bad choices in our daily lives? Yes, each of us does every day.
Compare the transparency of the White House with all its challenges and the response of the US population to:
- the Assad regime and its cruelty on its own population
- the turbulence in Turkey
- the chaos in Kenya
- struggles in Venezuela
- secrecy in Russia
- the starvation in northern African countries
- controls in the Mid-East royal regimes
- and so on.
Are we perfect anywhere at present? No, but when challenges are brought to the surface and exposed to public scrutiny, decisions based on selecting the best option at the time are necessary. There is tremendous intelligence in so many levels and demands on being made to set aside personal agendas for the common good; more about personal responsibility along with individual freedom. I firmly believe in humanity with all its warts. I have seen too much of the good to ever doubt that.
You make a good point. While we fret over there being too many white men in Dunkirk, how some tiny sliver of the military dresses on the weekends, or people in high places uttering naughty words, there is a larger world out there to consider. While people here play-act at resisting a dictator, there are plenty examples of the real thing out there.
It made sense that Trump would have chosen loud-mouthed, uncontrolled Scaramucci (very much like himself). I'm sooooooo glad he's out. The problem is, Kelly might have great ideas for Trump as to how to use discipline (for once) and control his ID and narcissism, but it's hard to believe that Trump can do that. We'll see. It's all very disconcerting and unreal. :(
On the news this morning, they listed 3 people on the short list to replace Spicer/Scaramucci........one of which was Kellyanne Conway. Hmmmm.......here we go again??
It's hard living in a circus right now.
You make a good point. While we fret over there being too many white men in Dunkirk, how some tiny sliver of the military dresses on the weekends, or people in high places uttering naughty words, there is a larger world out there to consider. While people here play-act at resisting a dictator, there are plenty examples of the real thing out there.
I can't speak for everyone else, but as one of those people play acting at resisting a dictator my concern is not that things are as bad as any of the other examples razz gives. My concern is that the clown in chief would make things that bad if given a chance and that the party with the majority in the legislative branch seems reluctant to do much to stop him. But no, even though I'm sure he really wants to, at this point he still is not able to simply have Comey and Mueller offed, Russian-style. The worst he's managed to do so far is make a mockery of the office of President and piss off our allies around the world so that they will be less inclined to help us should a potential disaster happen to us.
Williamsmith
8-1-17, 10:52am
I'm having a hard time connecting what I see happening around me with what is going on in Washington DC. Some people in my neighborhood appear to be really disgusted with the crassness of our current batch of politicians but they have elected them and so are committed to backing their policy. The system seems to be held together with duct tape and whirling around at near red line speeds. Threatening to fly apart at any moment. It is and continues to be a ride on an old wooden roller coaster. Hard on the back, your neck gets whiplash but you can't get off now. We are headed somewhere but it's not clear to me where yet.
I'm having a hard time connecting what I see happening around me with what is going on in Washington DC. Some people in my neighborhood appear to be really disgusted with the crassness of our current batch of politicians but they have elected them and so are committed to backing their policy. The system seems to be held together with duct tape and whirling around at near red line speeds. Threatening to fly apart at any moment. It is and continues to be a ride on an old wooden roller coaster. Hard on the back, your neck gets whiplash but you can't get off now. We are headed somewhere but it's not clear to me where yet.
Where? To the shitter.
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The Mooch is basically a **** ****. Good riddance. I say bring back Spicey. He's a little daft, but you pretty much knew what you were getting. And never let Trump speak to the Boy Scouts again!
I miss Spicey--our own deadpan version of loveable Baghdad Bob. Sarah Huckabee Sanders is about as professional and polished as a Cracker Barrel hostess.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders is about as professional and polished as a Cracker Barrel hostess.
That's a good one! I may not ever look at her the same again.
iris lilies
8-2-17, 11:40am
That's a good one! I may not ever look at her the same again.
I hadnt heard her, had to go listen to a few seconds of her delivery.
well, ok. It is elitest, and popular by the coasties, to make fun of an accent South of clipped Midwestern flyover country. Personally, I wish the speaker for the White House didnt sound too bumpkinish, but there it is.
I've heard some lovely Southern accents over the years--I think of Lady Bird Johnson and Letitia Baldridge (IIRC)--and many that were perfectly pleasant to listen to, but Sanders needs elocution lessons or a voice coach, IMO. Call me elitist; I think the people running or representing our government ought to be a notch above in intelligence and/or skills.
I miss Spicey--our own deadpan version of loveable Baghdad Bob. Sarah Huckabee Sanders is about as professional and polished as a Cracker Barrel hostess.
Annie Oakley?
I'd also like it if we had a president capable of stringing together a coherent thought and also get past the fact that he only got 46% of the popular vote 268 days ago. But apparently stupidity and insecurity aren't considered liabilities anymore.
Annie Oakley?
She shoots from the hip?
Naaaah.
I can't speak for everyone else, but as one of those people play acting at resisting a dictator my concern is not that things are as bad as any of the other examples razz gives. My concern is that the clown in chief would make things that bad if given a chance and that the party with the majority in the legislative branch seems reluctant to do much to stop him. But no, even though I'm sure he really wants to, at this point he still is not able to simply have Comey and Mueller offed, Russian-style. The worst he's managed to do so far is make a mockery of the office of President and piss off our allies around the world so that they will be less inclined to help us should a potential disaster happen to us.
I consider myself more "the resistance" than the "loyal opposition." When do we get to claim the title--when we're standing in line being triaged for reeducation camps, perhaps? Better to start sooner rather than later when clouds are gathering.
She shoots from the hip?
Naaaah.
That's for sure. But I can picture her riding her horse into Dodge and having a whisky at the Longbranch, chewin' and spittin' with the other cowpokes. :laff:
Assuming the mantle of courage and sacrifice of the wartime resistance movements seem extremely unserious in the present circumstances.
There is much to be said for opposing much of what Mr. Trump is about, but you're not the Maquis. You're just not.
I hadnt heard her, had to go listen to a few seconds of her delivery.
well, ok. It is elitest, and popular by the coasties, to make fun of an accent South of clipped Midwestern flyover country. Personally, I wish the speaker for the White House didnt sound too bumpkinish, but there it is.
Jane and IL, your comments made me think of how much I love this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT7CVDiCDQI
Assuming the mantle of courage and sacrifice of the wartime resistance movements seem extremely unserious in the present circumstances.
Related:
I highly recommend a visit to Norway's Resistance Museum in the Akershus Fortress in Oslo if you are ever in the area. It's well worth the time. (The bit of the exhibits devoted to the behaviour and fate of Norwegian school teachers was very awe inspiring, for instance.)
The Norwegians are pretty cool. After they executed Quisling (right in the square of that fortress, by happenstance) they turned Quisling's home/mansion into their Center for Studies of the Holocaust and Religious Minorities.
Sic semper tyrannis.
Jane and IL, your comments made me think of how much I love this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT7CVDiCDQI
Funny but I love classical music including opera but I really love country and especially Johnny Cash. I had not heard this song before so really enjoyed listening to it. Thanks
Williamsmith
8-3-17, 3:35pm
Jane and IL, your comments made me think of how much I love this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT7CVDiCDQI
My youngest son attended college in South Carolina. It was a bit of a culture shock but I have to say I was pleased when he came home on Spring break and vacations with stories about how his roommate and others kept reminding him to say, "Yes, sir" and "yes mam."
My first miscue down there happened at an outlet mall. I purchased something and in checking out I handed the clerk a twenty dollar bill. She took it and said, "Chaiyange for a tweenie." I was befuddled. "I'm sorry", I said. "What?" She held up the bill and repeated, "Chaiyange for a tweenie?" I must have looked like deer in headlights.
My youngest son attended college in South Carolina. It was a bit of a culture shock but I have to say I was pleased when he came home on Spring break and vacations with stories about how his roommate and others kept reminding him to say, "Yes, sir" and "yes mam."
My first miscue down there happened at an outlet mall. I purchased something and in checking out I handed the clerk a twenty dollar bill. She took it and said, "Chaiyange for a tweenie." I was befuddled. "I'm sorry", I said. "What?" She held up the bill and repeated, "Chaiyange for a tweenie?" I must have looked like deer in headlights.
William, I remember learning pronouns in third grade in Virginia and the teacher said, "Now what is the plural pronoun of "you" and a little boy yelled out, "y'all."
Even in the third grade, we all thought that was funny.
Although it's not southern, in Pennsylvania where I spent part of my childhood, for the plural of "you", they would say "Yins".....which is a contraction of "You-ins". haha.....that doesn't make sense either.
iris lilies
8-3-17, 4:41pm
William, I remember learning pronouns in third grade in Virginia and the teacher said, "Now what is the plural pronoun of "you" and a little boy yelled out, "y'all."
Even in the third grade, we all thought that was funny.
Nope! I was just this week schooled in that, the Arkansas version anyway.
"y'all" is singular. "All y'all" is the plural version. :) This was from a lily person born, raised, and living inArkansas.
Nope! I was just this week schooled in that, the Arkansas version anyway.
"y'all" is singular. "All y'all" is the plural version. :) This was from a lily person born, raised, and living inArkansas.
Respectfully, IL, I was born in Georgia, and in Georgia, y'all is plural. Isn't that funny, how different regionalisms are.
My youngest son attended college in South Carolina. It was a bit of a culture shock but I have to say I was pleased when he came home on Spring break and vacations with stories about how his roommate and others kept reminding him to say, "Yes, sir" and "yes mam."
My first miscue down there happened at an outlet mall. I purchased something and in checking out I handed the clerk a twenty dollar bill. She took it and said, "Chaiyange for a tweenie." I was befuddled. "I'm sorry", I said. "What?" She held up the bill and repeated, "Chaiyange for a tweenie?" I must have looked like deer in headlights.
Here's my favorite story about the North-South "language" differences. My DH was a salesperson with territory down south. We lived in the Northeast. He would talk to one of his new clients, named Beel, frequently on the phone, but had never met him, so he finally arranged a sales call down there, and took the guy to lunch.
While waiting for their lunch, in the interest of small talk, DH asked him, "'Beel' is an interesting name. What's it short for?"
The guy looked at DH as if he had crawled out from under a rock and then drawled, "Weelliam."
Here's my favorite story about the North-South "language" differences. My DH was a salesperson with territory down south. We lived in the Northeast. He would talk to one of his new clients, named Beel, frequently on the phone, but had never met him, so he finally arranged a sales call down there, and took the guy to lunch.
While waiting for their lunch, in the interest of small talk, DH asked him, "'Beel' is an interesting name. What's it short for?"
The guy looked at DH as if he had crawled out from under a rock and then drawled, "Weelliam."
:D
iris lilies
8-3-17, 5:13pm
Here's my favorite story about the North-South "language" differences. My DH was a salesperson with territory down south. We lived in the Northeast. He would talk to one of his new clients, named Beel, frequently on the phone, but had never met him, so he finally arranged a sales call down there, and took the guy to lunch.
While waiting for their lunch, in the interest of small talk, DH asked him, "'Beel' is an interesting name. What's it short for?"
The guy looked at DH as if he had crawled out from under a rock and then drawled, "Weelliam."
I hear this eeeeeee sound here in speech of some African Americans. It is a soft, slightly Southern sound they have.
This is a funny story, catherine, because I still note to myself, after living here for nearly 30 years, that ee for iu sound. It is often said that St. Louis is a little but Southern in culture, it is Eastern in archotecture, it is Midwestern in weather.
Respectfully, IL, I was born in Georgia, and in Georgia, y'all is plural. Isn't that funny, how different regionalisms are.
My understanding, and I use this construction every day, is:
y'all - second person plural (with occasional use by some in the singular in niche conditions)
all y'all - second person plural, indicating that each element of the group is being addressed without exception
In Pittsburgh it was youse and youse guys was plural. Here in MD I was told yinz and yinzes mean the same.
"Bagels" are hunting dogs to a Richmond,VA relative. I had no idea what he was talking about when he told the story...Beagles....
youse guys, made me smile I think have had said that silly line many times in my life:|( looks so weird in print.
People from the south have nothing on Australians. I was having a phone conversation with an Austrailian coworker who now works in our NY office as a claims manager. He was recapping a conference call he'd had with our client, their insurance broker and an outside vendor helping with the loss. He kept mentioning some guy named Aaron Shood. For the first several minutes of my call with him I was rifling my notes from the last conversation on this topic to figure out who this Aaron guy represented. Finally it hit me. It wasn't Aaron Shood. It was "our insured".
I am enjoying this thread!
Australians seem to draw out and "chew" their vowels. It's interesting how regional dialects develop.
It's interesting how we learn language. I was listenting to an NPR program the other day and they were interviewing immigrants to Australia. (I guess they have lots of them that don't really want to assimilate the culture.) One woman was from an asian country. She had broken "english"........but she had an Australian accent. It's to be expected, but just interesting how when we learn language, we learn exactly the dialect we hear. I guess that makes sense.
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