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gimmethesimplelife
2-3-20, 9:09pm
Trump, I mean. In 2020. What do you think? At this point I honestly have no idea. There is entirely too much craziness going on in society these days - a Texas A and M shooting today, a Greyhound shooting in California, a virus spreading, need I go on? I'm crazy busy with season, more than a little burnt out, and frustrated with American politics. No longer do I know what to think about Trump's chances. Rob
I think he is a shoe-in to win.
flowerseverywhere
2-3-20, 9:40pm
Absolutely. Many people do not like illegal immigrants. They don’t like their kids in school, they don’t like them clogging up the ER’s, having anchor babies.
It was all over in the first first Democratic debate when the moderator said “who supports free medical care for illegal immigrants.” And everyone raised their hands.
And many many many people do not like poor people, food stamps, Medicaid, free school lunch and so on. Hate is a powerful motivator.
ApatheticNoMore
2-3-20, 10:09pm
Absolutely. Many people do not like illegal immigrants. They don’t like their kids in school, they don’t like them clogging up the ER’s, having anchor babies.
It was all over in the first first Democratic debate when the moderator said “who supports free medical care for illegal immigrants.” And everyone raised their hands.
people are stupid, it's a public health issue there is all, you can try to block (via employment say) or deport immigrants but not by denying immigrants who are already in the U.S. healthcare is a public health issue. What if an immigrant got the corona virus? Not the only public health issue, what if a homeless person got the corona virus, but ..
And many many many people do not like poor people, food stamps, Medicaid, free school lunch and so on. Hate is a powerful motivator.
on the other hand more and more people are becoming poor people ... so there is that ... but will they vote?
And many many many people do not like poor people, food stamps, Medicaid, free school lunch and so on. Hate is a powerful motivator.I think it's more accurate to say many people don't like an entitlement system designed to keep people poor, fraud and mis-use of food stamps, Medicaid and other entitlement programs and so on. Mis-representing and calling them hateful is indeed a powerful motivator and I think that, more than anything else, will guarantee his win.
Teacher Terry
2-3-20, 10:30pm
There’s a lot more fraud in other areas than programs that help the poor. Years ago welfare allowed people to stay on it for years. That stopped in the 80’s. The enemy is not people that need social programs. I did see 4 women farmers that were interviewed. 3 were going for a Democrat and one was undecided. They are suffering under trump’s policies. It will be interesting to see how they vote as a group.
Trump, I mean. In 2020. What do you think? At this point I honestly have no idea. There is entirely too much craziness going on in society these days - a Texas A and M shooting today, a Greyhound shooting in California, a virus spreading, need I go on? I'm crazy busy with season, more than a little burnt out, and frustrated with American politics. No longer do I know what to think about Trump's chances. Rob
If you’re interested in a wager, You can check the current odds of him winning in November at thelines.com. Right now it looks pretty good for him.
If you’re interested in a wager, You can check the current odds of him winning in November at thelines.com. Right now it looks pretty good for him.
Wow, that's fascinating how his odds *improved* during the impeachment process. 4 more years.
iris lilies
2-3-20, 11:54pm
Wow, that's fascinating how his odds *improved* during the impeachment process. 4 more years.Rah rah Nancy and crew!
If you’re interested in a wager, You can check the current odds of him winning in November at thelines.com. Right now it looks pretty good for him.
It would be interesting to see what the political tendencies are of the people ‘invested’ there are. If one reads the comment sections of faux news trump is a shoo in for re-election. If one reads other news site commenters he’s crashing and burning. What the gambling odds are is entirely a reflection of who is doing the gambling not a valid predictor of upcoming election results.
The Iowa caucus reporting issues tonight certainly help with any concerns over transparency and such....
The Iowa caucus reporting issues tonight certainly help with any concerns over transparency and such....
No kidding. And make Mitch McConnell’s refusal to consider any legislation Involving securing our elections all the more enraging. But since the republicans know they can’t win on their nonexistent ideas I suppose his actions aren’t surprising.
ToomuchStuff
2-4-20, 3:16am
Will he win what?
It's great to say that Trump is not my President... Rob
If he isn't your president, then how can he be impeached? Why would you even worry about a second non term?
That is kind of the thinking that is causing the Democratic party, so much trouble.
It would be interesting to see what the political tendencies are of the people ‘invested’ there are. If one reads the comment sections of faux news trump is a shoo in for re-election. If one reads other news site commenters he’s crashing and burning. What the gambling odds are is entirely a reflection of who is doing the gambling not a valid predictor of upcoming election results.
What the gambling odds are is entirely a reflection of people putting their money where their mouth is. People don’t generally gamble to make an ideological statement. They gamble to win other people’s money. It would be interesting to see how the punditocracy prognosticated if they had real skin in the game.
No kidding. And make Mitch McConnell’s refusal to consider any legislation Involving securing our elections all the more enraging. But since the republicans know they can’t win on their nonexistent ideas I suppose his actions aren’t surprising.
The process in Iowa is a private event run by the parties. You can’t blame Mitch or the Russians or our Space Lizard Overlords for this debacle. It is a demonstration of the organizational prowess of the Democratic Party.
The process in Iowa is a private event run by the parties. You can’t blame Mitch or the Russians or our Space Lizard Overlords for this debacle. It is a demonstration of the organizational prowess of the Democratic Party.
I’m not blaming Mitch for the disaster in Iowa. Just pointing out the importance of election security and legitimacy, which is something that Mitch has specifically not been in favor of.
flowerseverywhere
2-4-20, 7:33am
I think it's more accurate to say many people don't like an entitlement system designed to keep people poor, fraud and mis-use of food stamps, Medicaid and other entitlement programs and so on. Mis-representing and calling them hateful is indeed a powerful motivator and I think that, more than anything else, will guarantee his win.
even with record unemployment the number of health uninsured has grown by millions each year Trump has been in office. Since we were promised better, cheaper insurance something is wrong.
Student debt is rising. The homeless problem is huge.
See Reagan and the welfare queen myth.
So things are fabulous for a certain percent of the population. But for many it is far more difficult to see a future where no matter how hard you work, you are a car breakdown or illness away from total financial disaster.
No one will change the mind of someone who defends Trump no matter how many insults he hurls, how many sharpie worthy gaffes he makes, how high anti-Semitism rises, how high the deficit is, how many children are massacred, or how many lies he tells. While he, his children and cronies add more wealth to their overflowing coffers. So there’s that. No use arguing there are two distinct sides in this country and few budge unless they fall from the economic winners in this society to the Losers through no fault of their own. See farm bankruptcies, uninsured etc.
By by the way, during term 2 expect entitlements of social security and Medicare to be considered for cuts too while the rich get richer.. God help us.
Teacher Terry
2-4-20, 12:24pm
Flowers, I totally agree with you. I saw that a guy that lives in the village’s was getting threats because he was a democrat. In response he is driving around with anti trump signs which is not what I would do. I didn’t realize how one sided the community was.
Flowers, I totally agree with you. I saw that a guy that lives in the village’s was getting threats because he was a democrat.
During the 2012 election campaign, I went as a Republican delegate to the conventions from my county, part of my ill-advised experiment in direct participation.
Once the announcement of my treachery was revealed, I was shunned by a good part of the community (which is 65%-ish Democrat) for years, was yelled at face-to-face in the village, and all sorts of other fun stuff.
I was nearly lynched during the 2016 election cycle, when I wore my "Winter is Coming, John Snow 2016" t-shirt at the local pub.
Teacher Terry
2-4-20, 1:10pm
Bae, that’s awful! My husband is Republican although not a trump lover. I have a few Republican friends plus a few democrats that voted for trump. No way am I losing a valuable relationship over politics.
My husband is Republican although not a trump lover.
How dreadful for the GOP that Trump has so hijacked their brand that Republicans feel the necessity to add that disclaimer.
Interesting times.
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