Amy Cooper and SWATing black people

[bae]

So,

Amy Cooper is in the news for calling the police about a black man, Christian Cooper.

The video is pretty over-the-top. She visibly ups her level of represented fear and distress when on the phone with dispatch. Clearly an attempt to get the police to come by and really put the man in his place...

The video leading up to her call with the police shows her acting quite aggressively towards the man.


"I'm going to tell them there's an African American man threatening my life," she says.

"Please tell them whatever you like," Christian Cooper says.

The video shows Amy Cooper on her phone.

"There's a man, African American, he has a bicycle helmet," she says. "He is recording me and threatening me and my dog."

While she's on the phone, her dog appears to be straining and trying to get free while she tries to restrain it.

"I'm being threatened by a man in the Ramble," she continues in an audibly distraught voice . "Please send the cops immediately!"

[Gardnr]

So,

Amy Cooper is in the news for calling the police about a black man, Christian Cooper.

The video is pretty over-the-top. She visibly ups her level of represented fear and distress when on the phone with dispatch. Clearly an attempt to get the police to come by and really put the man in his place...

The video leading up to her call with the police shows her acting quite aggressively towards the man.


"I'm going to tell them there's an African American man threatening my life," she says.

"Please tell them whatever you like," Christian Cooper says.

The video shows Amy Cooper on her phone.

"There's a man, African American, he has a bicycle helmet," she says. "He is recording me and threatening me and my dog."

While she's on the phone, her dog appears to be straining and trying to get free while she tries to restrain it.

"I'm being threatened by a man in the Ramble," she continues in an audibly distraught voice . "Please send the cops immediately!"

I watched that. She is ridiculous! She issued an apology within 24 hours.

[bae]

I watched that. She is ridiculous! She issued an apology within 24 hours.

Apology?

"I'm sorry, I tried to have armed men show up to beat the bleep out of you, or maybe even shoot you"

[Teacher Terry]

She also lost her job and the dog went back to the rescue. What a horrible person.

[iris lilies]

Karen in the extreme, apparently (I didn’t watch it.)

[JaneV2.0]

I hope she doesn't get that poor dog back, but was otherwise satisfied with the outcome.
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There was also a video of a black delivery driver in uniform being blocked and questioned accusingly by a couple of officious HOA twits in a gated community somewhere. This kind of thing apparently goes on day in and day out. Might explain the "angry black man" so beloved by the media.

[iris lilies]

There was a young woman in downtown Saint Louis who questioned a man standing outside of her apartment building about coming in and he walked in as she walked out. She asked to see his building ID and he wouldn’t show it, he just said “I live here. “She followed him and kept asking to see some kind of building identification which he refused to show her, and he started filming her.


Of course the film ended up on YouTube and highly publicized. She was fired from her job, some kind of rental manager.


Me, I think asking him to show a building ID was entirely reasonable since she didn’t know him, but of course no one could know everyone in those giant downtown condo buildings. A reasonable person would’ve flashed her his key fob or whatever it is they have to get into the building.


But I would not have gone to the length that she went to to continue to follow him and talk to him. I would have let it go.
You’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t. I remember specifically just in the past year we were leaving our friends’ condominium building and a young black man came in as we opened the door. I didn’t ask to see his ID because I didn’t live in that building. But I was worried that I let someone in who should not be in but how the hell would I I know?


I think people who live in those condo buildings are operating under a false sense of security.Rapists know very well how easy it is to get into these types of buildings. Fortunately, there are very few rapists. Most common Criminals are of the of property crime ilk.

[Teacher Terry]

I used to live in a condo and we had security. If someone followed me in I assumed they lived there. There were 200 units. Black people are sick of being harassed. I wouldn’t buzz anyone in that I didn’t know.

[iris lilies]

I used to live in a condo and we had security. If someone followed me in I assumed they lived there. There were 200 units. Black people are sick of being harassed. I wouldn’t buzz anyone in that I didn’t know.

So to be clear, if you’re standing inside the lobby and there’s a man standing outside and the door is locked you’re not gonna buzz him in.


If you are in the process of going out the door and there’s a man standing there with no key ready and no fob, you’re gonna hold the door open for him to go in.

Is that right?

[pinkytoe]

Today I was out walking and a black man was approaching from the opposite direction on a narrow sidewalk. The thought occurred to me that if I veered a bit out of the way, he might think I am a racist though the truth is, I normally would have done so with any human due to the virus protocol. I did not want any assumptions made, so I did not veer and we passed within inches of each other.

[iris lilies]

Today I was out walking and a black man was approaching from the opposite direction on a narrow sidewalk. The thought occurred to me that if I veered a bit out of the way, he might think I am a racist though the truth is, I normally would have done so with any human due to the virus protocol. I did not want any assumptions made, so I did not veer and we passed within inches of each other.

This evening I went out walking just before it got dark and without exception, everyone I encountered on the sidewalk were black and if they didn’t move out the sidewalk I did.

[Teacher Terry]

UL, yes to the first and no to the second. I don’t care in scenario 2 if a man or woman I turn around and go out the back door. That’s what I did when I lived there.

[Teacher Terry]

Here’s the problem is that people get compassion fatigue. So the cops in Minneapolis murdered a innocent person. Now black people are looting. I have lived near neighborhoods that I couldn’t walk in without risking my life as a teenager. I drove through places in Milwaukee going to graduate school hoping my car wouldn’t break down. I have no solution to the problem.

[iris lilies]

UL, yes to the first and no to the second. I don’t care in scenario 2 if a man or woman I turn around and go out the back door. That’s what I did when I lived there.


T. terry, this is the post you were responding to, for clarity:

“So to be clear, if you’re standing inside the lobby and there’s a man standing outside and the door is locked you’re not gonna buzz him in.

If you are in the process of going out the door and there’s a man standing there with no key ready and no fob, you’re gonna hold the door open for him to go in.

Is that right?”

In my mind I see no functional difference between the two. For some reason in your mind you’re gonna let a guy in but you won’t let a guy in.

I really don’t get it. Whatever.

[Teacher Terry]

I am not letting anyone in regardless. Have your own key or get buzzed in by someone else. Maybe I am tired and misunderstood. I was super careful when I lived there. After reviewing my post you misunderstood. Nobody without a key or getting buzzed in is getting in on my watch.

[iris lilies]

I am not letting anyone in regardless. Have your own key or get buzzed in by someone else. Maybe I am tired and misunderstood. I was super careful when I lived there. After reviewing my post you misunderstood. Nobody without a key or getting buzzed in is getting in on my watch.
ah! Ok, got it.

[sweetana3]

My mother in law lives in a controlled building with key cards. The door are locked at night and weekends and only key card holders or people they come down and let in entering the building. One guy was banging on the door an Mom told him the rule (she was doing laundry and heard the banging). He got mad, cussed, and called the police. They came and took him to his mom's apartment and she told the police she did NOT want to see him, would not let him in, and he knew this. They escorted him out of the building.

My mother in law was very stressed about this but the police took her aside and told her she did the right thing. So are crazies out there who even threaten elderly folks to get what they want. Many meetings have been held with residents to explain security. They are advised to keep their doors locked. (they also have the issues of residents forgetting the number of their own apartments and some residents that have sticky fingers.)

[Gardnr]

Apology?

"I'm sorry, I tried to have armed men show up to beat the bleep out of you, or maybe even shoot you"

Lame excuse for a human. For some reason, she thought an apology would erase her racism from history.

[Gardnr]

Today I was out walking and a black man was approaching from the opposite direction on a narrow sidewalk. The thought occurred to me that if I veered a bit out of the way, he might think I am a racist though the truth is, I normally would have done so with any human due to the virus protocol. I did not want any assumptions made, so I did not veer and we passed within inches of each other.

I would look anyone in the eye with a smiling face, say Good Morning, as I stepped away to keep that distance.

[bae]

Lame excuse for a human. For some reason, she thought an apology would erase her racism from history.

I wonder what the path to redemption looks like these days for blatant racist behaviour?

[Alan]

I wonder what the path to redemption looks like these days for blatant racist behaviour?
Run for President as a Democrat?

[bae]

Run for President as a Democrat?

Oh snap! :-)

[happystuff]

Run for President as a Democrat?

Well, it worked for the Republicans. :D

[iris lilies]

I wonder what the path to redemption looks like these days for blatant racist behaviour?

The subject must want to be redeemed to start on a successful path to redemption, that’s the first element. Since we do not have your much mentioned reeducation camps here (and they do serve a purpose besides actual reeducation by striking fear into the hearts of everyone) the best we can do is socially censor.


Social Censure, or what I think of as shaming, it’s so often denigrated yet here we are, shaming. Because casting shame is the tool each one of us has when we are out and about in society.


With the word “racist “ being flung around with impunity it is difficult to always know when that is a truthful label.I always think that it’s good to have these bad actors out there acting openly because they show us who they are and we know what to look out for.

[JaneV2.0]

Social censure/shaming is a very useful tool for certain behaviors.

[frugal-one]

I wonder what the path to redemption looks like these days for blatant racist behaviour?

No redemption for a white supremist president... trump!

[JaneV2.0]

The idea that Trump is in any way superior lends itself to paroxysms of irony.