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iris lilies
1-4-21, 3:43pm
What do you mean when you say the word “pantry? “
Isn’t a pantry just a tall cupboard? Unless, of course, one has room for a walk-in pantry. My kitchen is 8’ x 8 1/2’ so there are no walk-in pantries on the horizon here.
In addition to pantry considerations I am building a tiny Butler’s pantry. A Butler’s pantry is defined as an area between the kitchen and the dining room. Well that’s what this is Dash a closet that I am outfitting with cabinetry. It will hold glassware cups a coffee maker and probably some kind of refrigerator/freezer unit on the floor.
Here’s what I’m aiming for see photos:
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My pantry looks a little like yours but it actually is a 6' closet with folding doors just inside the door from the garage. I have shelves in it for groceries and larger cooking pans, coffee pot, flour, sugar etc. The laundry set is opposite.
When I looked for ideas on how to better make a pantry out of a closet, most suggested exactly what I had done. Looks like your idea is perfect for your condo.
I've always taken the word pantry to just mean floor to ceiling cupboard. Our old apartment had a nice one. 40 inches wide, 24 inches deep. It was great. In our new house we just have a little pantryette. (Yes, I made up that word.) It's maybe 16 inches wide and five feet tall and 18 inches deep. It's useful, but I wish it were bigger. SO installed pullout shelves and bought stackable bulk food containers to reign in the chaos and make the most of it, which helps a lot.
When I say pantry, I often refer to the collection of items that one would have in a pantry. I have 3 separate areas that contain my "pantry"- a small kitchen closet, a small hallway closet intended for linens and a set of basement shelves. My dream house has a walk in pantry where I could not only keep extra food, but all my appliances also.
I think of a pantry as a closet in the kitchen. At my aunt's cottage there was a pantry with shelving and a cabinet to store dishes and pots and pans. Here's a picture of my pantry. (Embarrassed that the trim around the stained glass is YET to be painted :(. Inside the pantry is my microwave, fridge, a few shelves for food, and my onion/potato hanging basket.
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My pantry is on one side of my kitchen. It is floor to ceiling, about 18" deep and has bifold doors on it. It holds food, all baking stuff in containers, larger appliances I don't use daily (I prefer clear counters), our fire safe....that's about it. It's generally 85% full all the time.
iris lilies
1-4-21, 5:29pm
I think of a pantry as a closet in the kitchen. At my aunt's cottage there was a pantry with shelving and a cabinet to store dishes and pots and pans. Here's a picture of my pantry. (Embarrassed that the trim around the stained glass is YET to be painted :(. Inside the pantry is my microwave, fridge, a few shelves for food, and my onion/potato hanging basket.
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Not that you’re going to change it, but what’s the real utility of having a closed room off of a tiny kitchen that acts a pantry?Would that same space be more useful if it were not enclosed with a wall and a door?
My Hermann house has a long narrow “pantry “added to the house in the 80s. I call it a “pantry” because it’s a room off the kitchen. It required them to bump out the front of the house.What a dumb and expensive way to expand the kitchen without making it useful.
What do you mean when you say the word “pantry? “
Isn’t a pantry just a tall cupboard? Unless, of course, one has room for a walk-in pantry. My kitchen is 8’ x 8 1/2’ so there are no walk-in pantries on the horizon here.
In addition to pantry considerations I am building a tiny Butler’s pantry. A Butler’s pantry is defined as an area between the kitchen and the dining room. Well that’s what this is Dash a closet that I am outfitting with cabinetry. It will hold glassware cups a coffee maker and probably some kind of refrigerator/freezer unit on the floor.
Here’s what I’m aiming for see photos:
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You're really doing a beverage station rather than a pantry which is usually maximum storage. If that's your need, this is a lovely appearance .
iris lilies
1-4-21, 6:08pm
You're really doing a beverage station rather than a pantry which is usually maximum storage. If that's your need, this is a lovely appearance .
You are right, it is a beverage station. I just like my name for it, the world’s tiniest butlers pantry. I like tiny spaces.
I think of a pantry as a closet in the kitchen
That's essentially what we have, except that our pantry closet is a deep converted hall closet just off the kitchen/dining area. It contains the countertop appliances we don't use every day, larger serving dishes, our deeper stocks of nonperishable food, and a reed basket DW has filled with treats for the grandkids. We had a family friend build some shelves for us. This closet also contains the access to the attic, though, so we had to be careful about how permanent any of it is.
Not that you’re going to change it, but what’s the real utility of having a closed room off of a tiny kitchen that acts a pantry?Would that same space be more useful if it were not enclosed with a wall and a door?
My Hermann house has a long narrow “pantry “added to the house in the 80s. I call it a “pantry” because it’s a room off the kitchen. It required them to bump out the front of the house.What a dumb and expensive way to expand the kitchen without making it useful.
Yeah, I get your point. My house has a number of design flaws to be sure. Yet, there are advantages, too. It was built this way by the prior owners in order to expand living space as cheaply as they could, so they basically just enclosed the outdoor deck. In fact, the deck flooring is still the floor in the pantry and in the mudroom. Advantage of the pantry in the winter: It's like a walk-in refrigerator. We have such a small fridge, but whenever we don't have room in the fridge from November to April, it goes in the mudroom or even on the counter in the pantry. Another advantage, it's a great place to stick stuff in order to keep the kitchen looking relatively clutter-free. Another advantage to this weird pantry with the Dutch door: My grandkids loving playing store in it.
We don't have a pantry, a pantryette, or room for either. Extra food reserves and less-used appliances go in the cellar. I guess the good news is that this helps with my daily step count. I've observed in the past that women's magazines will have articles on step-saving kitchen layouts, weight loss and exercise, and irresistible baked goods recipes all in the same issue. :)
IL: Your pictures are right-side up! Bravo!
rosarugosa
1-5-21, 11:26am
I think of a pantry as a closet in the kitchen. At my aunt's cottage there was a pantry with shelving and a cabinet to store dishes and pots and pans. Here's a picture of my pantry. (Embarrassed that the trim around the stained glass is YET to be painted :(. Inside the pantry is my microwave, fridge, a few shelves for food, and my onion/potato hanging basket.
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Catherine: If you could see my kitchen you would not feel too bad about your unpainted trim, and we have only lived here for 35 years, lol. So no need to feel embarrassed; you are among friends. :)
Teacher Terry
1-5-21, 11:29am
When we lived in Wisconsin we had a empty space where the old refrigerators went but newer ones wouldn’t fit. I had a pantry built in that space which we needed with a small kitchen and 5 people. Now we have a pantry cupboard.
iris lilies
1-5-21, 12:10pm
Yeah, I get your point. My house has a number of design flaws to be sure. Yet, there are advantages, too. It was built this way by the prior owners in order to expand living space as cheaply as they could, so they basically just enclosed the outdoor deck. In fact, the deck flooring is still the floor in the pantry and in the mudroom. Advantage of the pantry in the winter: It's like a walk-in refrigerator. We have such a small fridge, but whenever we don't have room in the fridge from November to April, it goes in the mudroom or even on the counter in the pantry. Another advantage, it's a great place to stick stuff in order to keep the kitchen looking relatively clutter-free. Another advantage to this weird pantry with the Dutch door: My grandkids loving playing store in it.
That is so funny and interesting that your pantry serves as a larder as I think of larders. Larders were cool places with stone shelving where they set the meat pies and game.
I think of a pantry as a room off the kitchen, and I get slightly confused when a pantry reference is accompanied by a photo of a cupboard.
Not mine (website is on the photos), but I love this pantry and would like to have something like this. Storage for root vegetables, grains, etc. But off of the kitchen, which I like to keep clutter free, so I don’t have to see everything constantly.
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This whole discussion has been very interesting.
iris lilies
1-5-21, 12:55pm
I think of a pantry as a room off the kitchen, and I get slightly confused when a pantry reference is accompanied by a photo of a cupboard.
Not mine (website is on the photos), but I love this pantry and would like to have something like this. Storage for root vegetables, grains, etc. But off of the kitchen, which I like to keep clutter free, so I don’t have to see everything constantly.
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I know! So many people, when using the word “pantry” really seem to be talking about a cupboard, a tall one floor to ceiling. This is why I asked the question.
My one meeting with a kitchen designer was unsatisfying in so many ways, but she said something about placing a pantry here and I didn’t want to ask what she meant. She was probably just talking about a tall cabinet. My kitchen is 8‘ x 8 1/2‘ and ain’t no walk-in happening there.
I had already asked her about other terms she used that I didn’t know what they were, but have since figured out like “transitional” which the decorating world uses as a style that is between traditional and contemporary.
iris lilies
1-5-21, 12:56pm
I think of a pantry as a room off the kitchen, and I get slightly confused when a pantry reference is accompanied by a photo of a cupboard.
Not mine (website is on the photos), but I love this pantry and would like to have something like this. Storage for root vegetables, grains, etc. But off of the kitchen, which I like to keep clutter free, so I don’t have to see everything constantly.
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What are those lowest level spaces near the floor used for?
What are those lowest level spaces near the floor used for?
The lowest spaces are cat storage, from what I can tell.
They don’t mention it, and at some point they added fronts to those bottom pull outs, I suppose to keep out the cats.
I don't know what I’d use them for. Maybe kitchen towels or paper goods, if they had the fronts and functioned more as drawers.
The internet says:
pan·try
/ˈpantrē/
noun
a small room or closet in which food, dishes, and utensils are kept.
OK, I have to ask - what is cat storage? Whoever stores cats?
OK, I have to ask - what is cat storage? Whoever stores cats?
If you can herd 'em, you can store 'em...:~)
OK, I have to ask - what is cat storage? Whoever stores cats?
As a "cat person," it is clear to me that the cats would store themselves there.
OK, I have to ask - what is cat storage? Whoever stores cats?
http://www.simplelivingforum.net/images/smilies/744[1].gif If you look at the lower left corner of the enlarged first photo, there’s a fuzzy tail or two peeking out from the cats hanging out in those bottom shelves.
iris lilies
1-5-21, 4:29pm
I know cats would like to be in there because it’s like a box. Cats love enclosed places and boxes. But I can just imagine the cat hair and the cat vomit that one would have to crawl into periodically to clean out.
I think that pantry is larger than our kitchen. Maybe larger than half the rooms in our house....
As a "cat person," it is clear to me that the cats would store themselves there.
Yes, we had a cat storage space for a couple of days... I’ve since blocked it off and now they make do with a small room.
I think that pantry is larger than our kitchen. Maybe larger than half the rooms in our house....
Same here, Steve, I think larger than any of the rooms at our house!
I wish I had taken pictures of my mom's pantry before we took it apart when having and estate sale and selling the house. My dad made it for her by reconstructing the garage. He walled in half of it and you walked through the pantry to go into the house. One wall was glass and the entry door with a potting bench at that window to work on her bonsai. The wall next to that was all deep cupboards that she kept all her specialized cookware of which she collected just about everything as she worked in an antique store and was always bringing home finds. She then put her artistry towards the cupboard doors and painted them like the doors to chicken coops with chickens at every door. Hard to explain and do it justice but she even put straw and chicken wire over the top of the paintings to make it look more real. Each of us kept a door or two because they were so amazing. the other two walls were floor to ceiling bookcases full of her cookbook collections. In both the kitchen and the pantry, copper pans hung from racks in the ceiling. The next room off that had a huge freezer, floor to ceiling shelves of food and the washer and dryer.
iris lilies
1-6-21, 4:21pm
Simplemind, that sounds very cute, interesting and certainly unique.
I wish I had taken pictures of my mom's pantry before we took it apart when having and estate sale and selling the house. My dad made it for her by reconstructing the garage. He walled in half of it and you walked through the pantry to go into the house. One wall was glass and the entry door with a potting bench at that window to work on her bonsai. The wall next to that was all deep cupboards that she kept all her specialized cookware of which she collected just about everything as she worked in an antique store and was always bringing home finds. She then put her artistry towards the cupboard doors and painted them like the doors to chicken coops with chickens at every door. Hard to explain and do it justice but she even put straw and chicken wire over the top of the paintings to make it look more real. Each of us kept a door or two because they were so amazing. the other two walls were floor to ceiling bookcases full of her cookbook collections. In both the kitchen and the pantry, copper pans hung from racks in the ceiling. The next room off that had a huge freezer, floor to ceiling shelves of food and the washer and dryer.
It sounds so charming!! Man, I wish you did take pictures!
Sounds wonderful! Did they get to enjoy it for a good length of time. DH made me a dream sewing room when we had a young family but we moved with his work almost as soon as it was done. Never had another like it although my present one is quite lovely and spacious but my needs have changed 40 years later.
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