Non wifi security systems

[frugal-one]

Anyone use this or have any idea how they work? Trying to figure out a way to leave for an extended period without having anyone come into the house.

[Gardnr]

Anyone use this or have any idea how they work? Trying to figure out a way to leave for an extended period without having anyone come into the house.

My security person says it's either WIFI or Coax cable system.

[frugal-one]

My security person says it's either WIFI or Coax cable system.

Don’t know what this means?

Here is something I was looking at ..

https://gizbuyerguide.com/do-you-need-wifi-for-home-security-cameras/

[razz]

Your insurance coverage might have restrictions on what is acceptable. My house always has someone enter every other day with neighbours monitoring the outside. She leaves a record of her visits.

[frugal-one]

razz.. think US and Canada are different??

[ToomuchStuff]

Anyone use this or have any idea how they work? Trying to figure out a way to leave for an extended period without having anyone come into the house.


Are you actually talking SYSTEMS, or just camera's?
They are two different things. A System encompasses much more, such as door and glass break censors, back up alarms, etc. etc.

[razz]

razz.. think US and Canada are different??

I don't know if the home insurance requirements are different in different countries. Others will know.

I checked with my insurance company when I toured the SW US for 3 weeks in 2019 and was advised to have in-house visits every other day.

The water was turned off, gas items disconnected where possible, periodic lighting came on so it all seemed a common sense approach to me. I didn't question it further.

I don't know about the different tech options today but don't trust them. Locally, we have had whole barns filled with animals burn down when monitored using extensive technology that failed due to power interruptions, etc. Automation has limitations. I believe that the insurance for such operations has changed significantly as well. Your home is not just your home but impacts and is impacted by your neighbourhood and its activities.

[frugal-one]

Are you actually talking SYSTEMS, or just camera's?
They are two different things. A System encompasses much more, such as door and glass break censors, back up alarms, etc. etc.

I am thinking about just security cameras where wifi is not needed.

[happystuff]

Remember back when there used to be shows/info/etc. from burglars about the best protection from having your house robbed? I seem to recall that, back then, the #1 deterrent to burglars was a house with a non-wifi security system... a dog!

[iris lilies]

Remember back when there used to be shows/info/etc. from burglars about the best protection from having your house robbed? I seem to recall that, back then, the #1 deterrent to burglars was a house with a non-wifi security system... a dog!

I think you may be right I don’t really know, but I can tell you that living as I do in the hood where criminals abound, I know these incidents intimately:


One. Our friends with four large dogs, I mean BIG dogs, were burglarized in the night. The dogs were off duty, lazy things. Everyone was up on the third floor sleeping with the air conditioner going. Dogs did not even stir.

two. Our house was burglarized with yapping dogs inside. They were, however, very small yapping dogs so perhaps the burglars could tell from the sound that these dogs were not threats. They were three Frenchies and I know two of them would have barked their heads off because they were brainless yappers, but my good Feenchie was probably quiet.

My “good “ Feenchie was the one in the room with the burgler, so she could identify him but she never gave him up.

three. Neighbor burglerized with medium size dog at home, she would have barked.

[happystuff]

I think you may be right I don’t really know, but I can tell you that living as I do in the hood where criminals abound, I know these incidents intimately:


One. Our friends with four large dogs, I mean BIG dogs, were burglarized in the night. The dogs were off duty, lazy things. Everyone was up on the third floor sleeping with the air conditioner going. Dogs did not even stir.

two. Our house was burglarized with yapping dogs inside. They were, however, very small yapping dogs so perhaps the burglars could tell from the sound that these dogs were not threats. They were three Frenchies and I know two of them would have barked their heads off because they were brainless yappers, but my good Feenchie was probably quiet.

My “good “ Feenchie was the one in the room with the burgler, so she could identify him but she never gave him up.

three. Neighbor. Urgerlized, dog st home?

LOL to Feenchie keeping mum.

So maybe *some* dogs only deter *some* burglars. lol

[lmerullo]

I need to know if the alarm or security system is not WiFi - what are you wanting it for? In other words, if it can't contact you and law enforcement / fire / ambulance services at the moment of an event - what is it for?

That being said, I have dogs and have been broken into twice at night while we were sleeping. We awoke and chased them away. Once I came home through the front door to see a burger exit out the back door and once I was home and a bad guy broke into my car and had my keys, with a house key. He chose to ring the bell. Instead of answering the door, I called 911. They saw him run away, but he escaped. The deputies had my locks changed.

In all of the above, I've always had at least one dog. Seemingly made no difference.

[frugal-one]

Remember back when there used to be shows/info/etc. from burglars about the best protection from having your house robbed? I seem to recall that, back then, the #1 deterrent to burglars was a house with a non-wifi security system... a dog!

Yeah, if you plan on being home. This is for when we travel. Looking for non-wifi to be sure the electricity is on in winter and to monitor the exterior near the garage. Also, paying to have snow removal. Would be good to see if it actually is done. We have nosey neighbors so burglary is probably not gonna happen???

[ToomuchStuff]

Non WIFI camera's, means they are wired. You are going to have to get up in the attic and run cable, possibly through multiple floors, etc.
Coax is common, power over ethernet is a newer standard and cable.
Then if you want internet access to them, you will have to make sure the recording device can do that, and there will be some configuring.

[iris lilies]

I need to know if the alarm or security system is not WiFi - what are you wanting it for? In other words, if it can't contact you and law enforcement / fire / ambulance services at the moment of an event - what is it for?

That being said, I have dogs and have been broken into twice at night while we were sleeping. We awoke and chased them away. Once I came home through the front door to see a burger exit out the back door and once I was home and a bad guy broke into my car and had my keys, with a house key. He chose to ring the bell. Instead of answering the door, I called 911. They saw him run away, but he escaped. The deputies had my locks changed.

In all of the above, I've always had at least one dog. Seemingly made no difference.

we had a ridiculous blaring siren and light that we used for about 5 seconds many many years ago. Not hooked up to anyone. It was intended as deterrent.I hated it from the get-go, never used it, and finally just a few years ago DH removed it, but not without leaving a hole in the brick. Tragic.

[frugal-one]

I am not looking to pay for monthly internet access if we plan on being gone for months. We did have a person come in last time but found things missing when we got home. This was a person I knew and thought reliable. Sucks that you can't trust people!!

[happystuff]

Okay, so having a dog may not be as great a deterrent as I thought. I have to admit, I'm really disappointed!

[iris lilies]

Okay, so having a dog may not be as great a deterrent as I thought. I have to admit, I'm really disappointed!
I’m sure dogs are indeed a deterrent. We don’t know how many perps passed by all of our houses described my post due to the dogs. My friend with five large dogs and a tiny yard was never burglaries because there is always a couple of large dogs out prowling around.

We use many deterrents such as 5e’ and 6’ fences with just one way in. Doors to house always locked. Club on the car parked in the street. Nothing inviting sitting around our property Other than a bit of statuary, most of which is chained up.


These are deterrents but the very best deterrent is me sitting in a chair facing the door with a shotgun across my lap.Since I won’t dedicate myself to that duty I have to make do with these other barriers to crime.


But boy do I look forward to moving to Hermann where I don’t have to be constantly vigilant. If I step out of the car and leave billfold in the car? It will definitely be there the next morning. If I left it there for a week it would definitely be there.

[Alan]

Based on what little information is provided, I'm assuming you'd just like to have one or more cameras covering specific areas of your home but you do not require the means or ability to check them remotely as you do not want to pay for internet access while travelling. If that is indeed the case the answer is to purchase one or more covert security cameras with SD cards for video storage. Along with that, I'd consider one or more outside security lights with motion detection to ensure you have the ability to actually see whatever may be recorded by the cameras.

I'm currently travelling for the summer and maintain several hybrid systems in my home that I've put together myself, but I have many years of experience with alarm, video and access control systems. My hybrid systems require a little effort to set up but enable me to check or be notified of real time incidents as they happen. I'm not sure that's what you're looking for but if so, let me know and I'd be happy to help you out.

If you just want to see what happened while you were gone, go the cheap and easy route with the security cameras which record on sd cards or perhaps even to a home server. You could set up something like that in less than an hour.

[frugal-one]

Based on what little information is provided, I'm assuming you'd just like to have one or more cameras covering specific areas of your home but you do not require the means or ability to check them remotely as you do not want to pay for internet access while travelling. If that is indeed the case the answer is to purchase one or more covert security cameras with SD cards for video storage. Along with that, I'd consider one or more outside security lights with motion detection to ensure you have the ability to actually see whatever may be recorded by the cameras.

I'm currently travelling for the summer and maintain several hybrid systems in my home that I've put together myself, but I have many years of experience with alarm, video and access control systems. My hybrid systems require a little effort to set up but enable me to check or be notified of real time incidents as they happen. I'm not sure that's what you're looking for but if so, let me know and I'd be happy to help you out.

If you just want to see what happened while you were gone, go the cheap and easy route with the security cameras which record on sd cards or perhaps even to a home server. You could set up something like that in less than an hour.

Thanks Alan. The hybrid model sounds like what we are thinking of. I may contact you later in the year to discuss.

[ToomuchStuff]

The camera's Alan mentioned above, can be wifi (so you don't have to get in the attic), and in some cases, don't need it. Eufy, I know has both. They have indoor camera's that record to a SD card, and they have indoor/outdoor camera's, that wirelessly send to a base station that records to a USB drive and can be hooked to your network.
The big issue with any of these type of camera's, is if someone breaks into your house, your camera's could just as easily be stolen, or the recording devices removed.

[Teacher Terry]

Simplisafe is what we had in our house. I think it was 15/month if you wanted it monitored. We only paid for that if we were traveling.