Vax Millions

[Yppej]

Do you think these lotteries are rigged?

My state has had a big push to vaccinate people of color. In my own city this was the case according to the director of health with whom I corresponded when I was trying to get a shot.

So today's drawing gave prizes to an African-American man (adult prize) and a Latina woman (youth prize). This is in a state that is 80% white and where a higher percentage of whites were vaccinated than either of those two demographics. What are the chances this is just the state trying to get more of the target population to get the shot vs it being a fair and legit lottery?

ETA The man works in health care and throughout the pandemic there's been a narrative about how heroic this sector is for doing their jobs. The young woman is from one of the poorest communities hardest hit by the pandemic, where canvassers went door to door trying to sign people up. Hmmm.

[iris lilies]

I think anyone who isn’t getting the vaccine while able is silly. We dont need to parse the sillies down to race and etc.

[iris lilies]

Did any of you get the JNJ vaccine? Are you, if so, thinking about getting a better quality vaccine like the Pfizer?


At this point if I got J and J I would go out and get a Pfizer.

[catherine]

Well, now I see that Pfizer may only be 84% effective after 6 months.

I would go and get a booster next year, if available and if the guidelines recommended it.

[JaneV2.0]

Did any of you get the JNJ vaccine? Are you, if so, thinking about getting a better quality vaccine like the Pfizer?


At this point if I got J and J I would go out and get a Pfizer.

I'm content with my J & J for now--it's not like I'm going out and exposing myself right and left, and this county is 70-80% vaccinated. I will consider a booster down the line. And I'll wear a mask in public.

[jp1]

My Primary Care is out on leave until the 12th. Once he’s back in I plan to schedule a telemedicine appointment with him to discuss whether I should get a booster of one of the mRNA’s. There’s not super urgency since we don’t do much risky stuff typically but I do have to travel to Baltimore for work in late September so if I need a booster I want it far enough ahead of that to get the full benefit.

[happystuff]

I'm content with my J & J for now--it's not like I'm going out and exposing myself right and left, and this county is 70-80% vaccinated. I will consider a booster down the line. And I'll wear a mask in public.

I, too, am content with my Moderna vaccine; will also consider a booster if needed; and still wearing a mask in public/crowds/etc.

[bae]

So today's drawing gave prizes to an African-American man (adult prize) and a Latina woman (youth prize). This is in a state that is 80% white and where a higher percentage of whites were vaccinated than either of those two demographics. What are the chances this is just the state trying to get more of the target population to get the shot vs it being a fair and legit lottery?


Your understanding of statistics is dizzying.

[ToomuchStuff]

Do you think these lotteries are rigged?

What are the chances this is just the state trying to get more of the target population to get the shot vs it being a fair and legit lottery?



Rigged, yes. Those already vaccinated are not in the lottery. Legit, well that depends on your viewpoint. Their target population, is the UNVACCINATED. Lotteries are for those that are bad at math.

[bae]

The lottery in WA State included the previously-vaccinated.

[ApatheticNoMore]

I'd hesitate a bit on boosters, I had the flu symptoms from the second shot, every muscle in the body. It was: "yes! this is the pain I endure in order to be free of this thing!", but if it's every year: "this is the pain I endure in order to be free of this thing", geez that will get pretty old.

Wear masks, well yes it's the law inside, but we ate outside today instead of wearing masks.

[Yppej]

I have seen how some drawings go. At one company a random person from entries submitted at a trade show was supposed to receive a free service but the owner said if it"s an existing customer draw another name, we want new business. He also ensured that of those employees who put in their names for free Red Sox or Celtics tickets only his favorites ever got them.

At another company customers who spent $100 could enter for a free jacket but if the manager thought the name drawn was a jerk he would say draw another name, I don't want our company's name on the jacket being associated with that guy.

It is totally conceivable to me that although the vast majority of vaccinated people in my state are white the government would rig things so only POC win to try to encourage vaccination among them.

The lottery is also wasteful. It is spending $5 million on adult prizes, $1.5 million on youth prizes, and a whopping $3.5 million on administering the prizes although we already had a lottery commission and did not need to start from scratch. They also do not verify everyone's vaccine status. They wait until your name is drawn, then verify it. So there's no big cost for that. To allow for verification they draw the names on a Monday but announce winners on a Thursday.

[rosarugosa]

The lottery in WA State included the previously-vaccinated.

Same for the lottery in MA.