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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I can get some entertainment out of AOC these days, who called Trump "...the quintessential New York con man".
    Was she pretending to be handcuffed when she preached about fakery?

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    okay-----things are going well. hopefully, for awhile the usa's main export will be colombians, mexxicans, Venezualans, Guatemalans, etc., etc., who are squatters, trespassers, interlopers, invaders; here ILLEGALLY. Go back where you came from, dudes. You don't see ME going THERE, uninvited. Nope. Good Job, Don. Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Was she pretending to be handcuffed when she preached about fakery?
    Or is it just the usual fake news we've grown accustomed to, although putting one's hands behind the back did get attention.

    “No faking here." said AOC, “Putting your hands behind your back is a best practice while detained, handcuffed or not, to avoid escalating charges like resisting arrest.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    As of yesterday, proposed 10% addition China duties, on top of current 25%.

    25% for Canada/MX. These are all proposed for 2/1. No EO yet.
    It is looking like tariffs are donald's go-to hammer to get international compliance. I'd probably not thought a lot about it, but I think conservatives are being mislead on who actually pays them and assume it's the country exporting. I am still thinking the Feb. 1 threats are a bluff. Government has never been totally on the up and up, but it's sad that these guys have to constantly be fact checked. The age of disinformation. Another bald-faced lie to go with the 1/6 pardons will be decided on a case by case basis.

    "Former President Donald Trump and Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance continue to falsely describe how one of their major policy proposals, across-the-board tariffs, would work. Trump has falsely, and repeatedly, claimed that China – not US importers – pay the tariff."

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/fact-check-trump-vance-tariffs/index.html

    My understanding is that an exporting country doesn't pay tariffs. When a product arrives in the US, the American importer who buys whatever product pays the sales price, plus the tariff. The tariff then goes into a government fund. Then, of course, the total cost incurred by American buyer is passed along to the consumer. The exporter is probably put at a disadvantage in the marketplace since fewer people will buy the product, in theory.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Or is it just the usual fake news we've grown accustomed to, although putting one's hands behind the back did get attention.

    “No faking here." said AOC, “Putting your hands behind your back is a best practice while detained, handcuffed or not, to avoid escalating charges like resisting arrest.”
    Best practice in the same sense that it’s best practice to apply makeup before going on camera.

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    According to the Boston Globe, the Airforce, in order to comply with Trump's directive about shutting down all DEI training, has removed its films about the Tuskegee Airmen and the WASP's from WWII.

    He continues to frame the narrative by removing Black people and women from history.

    Kind of like the Pentagon removing Milley's portrait--he continues to dishonor our veterans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    According to the Boston Globe, the Airforce, in order to comply with Trump's directive about shutting down all DEI training, has removed its films about the Tuskegee Airmen and the WASP's from WWII.

    He continues to frame the narrative by removing Black people and women from history.

    Kind of like the Pentagon removing Milley's portrait--he continues to dishonor our veterans.
    That was an over-reaction on the Air Force's part and was immediately countermanded by executive decree. As an Air Force veteran I've been deeply disappointed in their recent inability to put mission ahead of resistance. I think whoever ordered those historical highlights to be removed from training material was attempting to undermine the current administration's focus on mission over indoctrination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    That was an over-reaction on the Air Force's part and was immediately countermanded by executive decree. As an Air Force veteran I've been deeply disappointed in their recent inability to put mission ahead of resistance. I think whoever ordered those historical highlights to be removed from training material was attempting to undermine the current administration's focus on mission over indoctrination.
    This action fits right in with public employees who, when asked to cut programs for cost savings, focus on cutting highly visible programs that will be noticed by the public to create hue and cry.

    Another tactic of bureaucrats is to make very small changes that can be made to appear very big and to report these changes in very large words to the new overlords and then, sit tight waiting for the next administration to come along.

    Trump will find it is very difficult to “drain the swamp.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    This action fits right in with public employees who, when asked to cut programs for cost savings, focus on cutting highly visible programs that will be noticed by the public to create hue and cry.

    Another tactic of bureaucrats is to make very small changes that can be made to appear very big and to report these changes in very large words to the new overlords and then, sit tight waiting for the next administration to come along.

    Trump will find it is very difficult to “drain the swamp.”
    This is very true. I remember a County Board meeting where a member was questioning the cost effectiveness of horse patrols in County parks. When asked how many crimes were committed in the parks, the Sheriff donned his most truculent scowl, and rasped “ Even one would be too many”. “For the children” was another commonly used cliche. And “how many people have to die before you…” was used so often it began eliciting laughter.

    It was a favorite tactic when faced with budget cuts to go with a simple percentage of everything rather than set priorities. Entrenched DEI bureaucracies will not go down easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post


    It is looking like tariffs are donald's go-to hammer to get international compliance. I'd probably not thought a lot about it, but I think conservatives are being mislead on who actually pays them and assume it's the country exporting. I am still thinking the Feb. 1 threats are a bluff. Government has never been totally on the up and up, but it's sad that these guys have to constantly be fact checked. The age of disinformation. Another bald-faced lie to go with the 1/6 pardons will be decided on a case by case basis.

    "Former President Donald Trump and Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance continue to falsely describe how one of their major policy proposals, across-the-board tariffs, would work. Trump has falsely, and repeatedly, claimed that China – not US importers – pay the tariff."

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/fact-check-trump-vance-tariffs/index.html

    My understanding is that an exporting country doesn't pay tariffs. When a product arrives in the US, the American importer who buys whatever product pays the sales price, plus the tariff. The tariff then goes into a government fund. Then, of course, the total cost incurred by American buyer is passed along to the consumer. The exporter is probably put at a disadvantage in the marketplace since fewer people will buy the product, in theory.


    There are SOME shipments where duty IS paid by the shipper. Look up incoterms, DDP. Its Delivered Duty Paid. But it’s very dependent on the negotiations on price between shipper and importer. But yes, duties are usually paid by importer.

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