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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I have wondered if, somewhere inside that 78 year old mind, he might actually might believe he was saved for a mission from the Lord to lead us out of darkness and into the promised land of cryptocurrency.
    in the immediate aftermath I spoke with two of my relatives, neither Trump fans of various intensity, and we were all kind of shocked about this— sign from God? Sign from the devil? —Who’s protecting this guy anyway? it was unreal.

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    I'm not big on traditional religions, but the teachings have some nuggets of higher wisdom. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    yes, I agree.. He is not temperamentally fit to be President of the United States.

    The rest of it is just needless detail, as far as I am concerned.
    Thank You, IL. I could not agree more with you here. Rob

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    Pretty much nothing in the news here, in spite of Denver being a sanctuary city. I'm starting to think it's another of DT's bluffs to encourage self deportation. a show of power, or less immigration. One report I saw today said Trump deported 38,000 in his first month compared with Biden's average of 57,000 per month during his last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Pretty much nothing in the news here, in spite of Denver being a sanctuary city. I'm starting to think it's another of DT's bluffs to encourage self deportation. a show of power, or less immigration. One report I saw today said Trump deported 38,000 in his first month compared with Biden's average of 57,000 per month during his last year.
    I like the idea of “self deportations” as well as keeping people from entering illegally in the first place. Both are inexpensive to U.S.,taxpayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I like the idea of “self deportations” as well as keeping people from entering illegally in the first place. Both are inexpensive to U.S.,taxpayers.
    The down side could be that DT lied about deporting millions of people here illegally, but that's nothing new in our era of disinformation. Maybe it's coming (ha).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    The down side could be that DT lied about deporting millions of people here illegally, but that's nothing new in our era of disinformation. Maybe it's coming (ha).
    but Trump is always using big words and exaggerations. Isn’t it a win/win situation if 1) he doesn’t deport millions and millions, but just targets the troublemakers and criminals and 2) all the big noise he’s making reduces naturally illegal immigrants in our country?

    Seems like a win-win to me, in that people who were crying about deportation won’t be so concerned with lesser numbers and people like me are happy that illegal residents are reduced in number at what may be a reasonable cost.

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    The degree by which the means justifies the end, where a falsehood or lie is used as the means, is an ethical choice. There could be times among my ethics where it's acceptable on small matters. The fact that it's DT's modus operandi is what I see as a problem. How far should one go when the means is an authoritarian in a position of power tells the public the Haitian illegals are eating pets? As an example. Telling people there is going to be mass deportations and without the intention of carrying through is a falsehood, but yes, it seems to be effective as much as the news filters and political theater allow.

    As a recent NYT headline said, in DT's alternate reality, lies and distortion drive change. That's not right, good, or ethical.
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    Pardon the simple cut and paste. It just got my attention.

    A group of prominent military contractors, including former Blackwater CEO Erik Prince, has pitched the Trump White House on a proposal to carry out mass deportations through a network of “processing camps” on military bases, a private fleet of 100 planes, and a “small army” of private citizens empowered to make arrests.
    The blueprint — laid out in a 26-page document President Donald Trump’s advisers received before the inauguration — carries an estimated price tag of $25 billion and recommends a range of aggressive tactics to rapidly deport 12 million people before the 2026 midterms, including some that would likely face legal and operational challenges, according to a copy obtained by POLITICO.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...tations-022648
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    okay----i interrupt this program to bring you kids this important news bulletin (see photo).

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