Let the debate begin?

[frugal-one]

I know you have had trouble making the distinction, but it is possible to support the Republican Party without supporting Trump. You can dislike Burger King without swearing off cheeseburgers.

I, for one, can’t support Trump and never did. But that doesn’t obligate me to vote for Democratic candidates I find every bit as objectionable (often for similar reasons).

What you don't seem to get is that trump IS the republican party now.

[Alan]

No matter, he is running as a republication and you endorsed that ideology.

Oh yes, I've always been and will always be a republicationator. I'm unapologetic about my desire for smaller government and greater personal liberty and while my party has been slowly inching towards a Democratic themed governing philosophy I still find Republicanism to be the better of two bad choices. The Democratic Party's social fascism tendencies on top of their desire to control rather than serve the populace scares me.

[jp1]

What you don't seem to get is that trump IS the republican party now.

If one looks at all the republicans who have come out in favor of Harris it’s clear that actually there are two classes of republicans now. If Harris wins the civil war within the Republican Party is going to be epic.

Personally I hope that the Liz Cheney branch wins. Even though I find pretty much all of her policy positions awful. But if she is the 2028 Republican nominee I will trust that the country still exists even if she wins. If the traitor half of the party wins I’m way less confident.

[Tybee]

If one looks at all the republicans who have come out in favor of Harris it’s clear that actually there are two classes of republicans now. If Harris wins the civil war within the Republican Party is going to be epic.

Personally I hope that the Liz Cheney branch wins. Even though I find pretty much all of her policy positions awful. But if she is the 2028 Republican nominee I will trust that the country still exists even if she wins. If the traitor half of the party wins I’m way less confident.

I am also a Liz Cheney fan, and would be happy to vote for her.

[LDAHL]

What you don't seem to get is that trump IS the republican party now.

You know who thinks like you? Donald Trump.

[iris lilies]

You know who thinks like you? Donald Trump.

haha, yep!

[jp1]

You know who thinks like you? Donald Trump.

He has good reason to think that way. After all he’s been the party’s nominee three presidential elections in a row. And apparently holds the power to veto bipartisan legislation as evidenced by the border bill.

[Rogar]

Trump is in his own party of old people with mental problems, but in some ways he does represent the traditional GOP, which is basically lower taxes for the wealthy and big business, deregulation of government regulations, and downsizing or decentralizing of the federal government. Trump has his own nefarious ways, but the dems have not given much of an alternative for those measures and represent their own traditional values. Among my conservative friends, the numbers of which seem to have diminished in the Trump era, I often hear that they don't like Trump, but like his policies. Or in my words, the end justifies the means, what ever they are.

It would be nice if Cheney got an appointment in the Harris administration if things turn out that way.

[frugal-one]

Oh yes, I've always been and will always be a republicationator. I'm unapologetic about my desire for smaller government and greater personal liberty and while my party has been slowly inching towards a Democratic themed governing philosophy I still find Republicanism to be the better of two bad choices. The Democratic Party's social fascism tendencies on top of their desire to control rather than serve the populace scares me.

What a joke!

[frugal-one]

haha, yep!

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