Let the deportations begin?

[iris lilies]

IL, I watched a few minutes of each video. The guy probably has a point, although I don't think the situation is as obvious as he presents. At least from my perspective from the news of Denver's sanctuary status, he is misleading. Sanctuary status doesn't protect criminals or avoid their arrests for crimes or hide them. They get some housing and food. They are protected from ICE in schools, churches, and maybe hospitals. From our news, local authorities actually work together with ICE and DEA to round up violent criminals, gang members, and drug dealers. They don't assist ICE with deportation proceedings that are a part of federal law. They notify ICE when an illegal person arrested for crimes is set to be released. I would think of the failure of the control of NYC crime as a fault of local police.

More power to ICE and any other help they get for cleaning up the NYC streets of gangs and crime. I don't understand the blame on sanctuary cities. It's probably complicated and I may not know everything.

People make money from uTube once they get enough views to monetize. It's probably a temptation for some.

Denver as Sanctuary City may operate differently than NYC in how/when local police work with ICE.

According to these Cash Jordan reports, ICE wasn’t allowed in NYC schools, churches, shelters prior to now. (True? I don’t know) I think this push by Trump operatives is cleaning out badnicks from New York City immigrant population who had been tacitly allowed to stay, for reasons as you say probably complicated.

Of COURSE Cash is making money from YouTube, it is his livelihood. I was shocked to see him deviate from years of apartment and neighborhood tours to this topic. If you had asked me about his political leanings I would’ve told you I assume he’s a supporter of Sanctuary City goals.

[sweetana3]

Blocking roads is popular around the world. We saw it in Mexico, Thailand and even in China.

[Rogar]

According to these Cash Jordan reports, ICE wasn’t allowed in NYC schools, churches, shelters prior to now. (True? I don’t know) I think this push by Trump operatives is cleaning out badnicks from New York City immigrant population who had been tacitly allowed to stay, for reasons as you say probably complicated.

The whole situation appears to have a positive end, but I'm not so sure I'd take the word of a realtor utuber as the only or best source. I doubt that drug dealers, gangs and other violent offenders are actually hiding out from ICE in schools and churches, whether they get access or not.

[LDAHL]

Blocking roads is popular around the world. We saw it in Mexico, Thailand and even in China.

Not so popular with the people being blocked, I would think.

[Rogar]

Still nothing in the news about anything unusual. Local news featured a few non-sanctuary counties who said they would assist with deportations of criminals who had committed a crime in the state, but would not help the feds much beyond that. I've not read if any big round-ups nation wise.

The idea of holding illegals at Guantanamo and/or outsourcing domestic violent offenders or illegals to foreign prisons is interesting.

[Tybee]

Still nothing in the news about anything unusual. Local news featured a few non-sanctuary counties who said they would assist with deportations of criminals who had committed a crime in the state, but would not help the feds much beyond that. I've not read if any big round-ups nation wise.

The idea of holding illegals at Guantanamo and/or outsourcing domestic violent offenders or illegals to foreign prisons is interesting.

Right, don't underestimate the cruelty of this administration.

[Rogar]

I'm beginning to think it's just another of Trump's bluffs. There's some sort of media PR program going to deter new people from entering, like the use of military planes, and propaganda program of fear to encourage self deportation, but what ever news I've seen says deportations are no greater than some of the times under Obama and Biden. I'd like to speculate that Guantanamo is one of those propaganda ideas that will never come to pass. What ever it is, it's a nothing burger for day 1.

[Tybee]

I'm beginning to think it's just another of Trump's bluffs. There's some sort of media PR program going to deter new people from entering, like the use of military planes, and propaganda program of fear to encourage self deportation, but what ever news I've seen says deportations are no greater than some of the times under Obama and Biden. I'd like to speculate that Guantanamo is one of those propaganda ideas that will never come to pass. What ever it is, it's a nothing burger for day 1.

Respectfully, with this person, I have stopped believing that he is bluffing about anything. I have come to believe that with Trump, "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

[Rogar]

Respectfully, with this person, I have stopped believing that he is bluffing about anything. I have come to believe that with Trump, "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

Sure, I'm purely speculating and you could be right. The tariffs are looking like a bluff to me, but that may not be over. All the talk about Canada being the 51st state, Greenland, the canal, and Gaza appear to be a bit of strength bolstering fantasy to me, too, but that may not be over yet, either.

Today's news reported a round up of drug dealing gang members to be deported, but the number is looking like only maybe a hundred. A combined effort of ICE, the DEA, and Homeland, but local law doesn't seem to be involved. A school bus tried to pull up to one of the apartments to pick up kids for school and was blocked, but it's sounding like they only picked up gang related criminals that had been under surveillance for many months before Donald.

[Tybee]

"‘Karoline Leavitt announces that "today, the first flights from the United States to Guantanamo Bay with illegal migrants are underway."’

(Feb 4 on Bluesky)