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    Quote Originally Posted by KayLR View Post
    I get all that, but what do you think of Musk's methodology? Both the staffing and the surprise aspect?
    I don't know. It occurs to me that if a very large organization wanted to make necessary changes to its infrastructure within a reasonable time limit, say 18 months or so, it might bring in bright, motivated contractors to audit each organizational component and make timely recommendations in order to fulfill the mission within the specified time frame.
    If that organization attempted to do it internally, within its own bureaucracy, it might take decades. I don't think it unusual to give it more than a few weeks to start evaluating results before deciding which way is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I don't know. It occurs to me that if a very large organization wanted to make necessary changes to its infrastructure within a reasonable time limit, say 18 months or so, it might bring in bright, motivated contractors to audit each organizational component and make timely recommendations in order to fulfill the mission within the specified time frame.
    If that organization attempted to do it internally, within its own bureaucracy, it might take decades. I don't think it unusual to give it more than a few weeks to start evaluating results before deciding which way is better.
    If an organization brought in a contractor, the contractor would give advice but not be given carted blanch authority to make changes. In government, contractors (usually) do not have a vested interest in the outcome of the changes they are implementing and usually, in my experience, not as invested in doing the best job. Musk has lots to gain and too much of a vested interest in how things shake out. He is being given too much authority for a non elected civilian. Companies and government are not run the same … nor should they be handled the same IMO.

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    I still say, for me, it's just a crazy idea that a vindictive, amoral, traitorous, narcissitic, greedy, power-hungry, lying son-of-a-bitch conman should not hold the highest office in the land, no matter what party they are, or what their platform is.

    Character matters, and it amazes me that so many people I love and admire for their good character have voted for a President that doesn't deserve to lick the soles of their shoes.
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    I still say, for me, it's just a crazy idea that a vindictive, amoral, traitorous, narcissitic, greedy, power-hungry, lying son-of-a-bitch conman should not hold the highest office in the land, no matter what party they are, or what their platform is.

    Character matters, and it amazes me that so many people I love and admire for their good character have voted for a President that doesn't deserve to lick the soles of their shoes.
    EXACTLY this!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I still say, for me, it's just a crazy idea that a vindictive, amoral, traitorous, narcissitic, greedy, power-hungry, lying son-of-a-bitch conman should not hold the highest office in the land, no matter what party they are, or what their platform is.

    Character matters, and it amazes me that so many people I love and admire for their good character have voted for a President that doesn't deserve to lick the soles of their shoes.
    Ditto. In addition, Musk fits several of those descriptors.

    Among all of Donald's/Musk's egregious cost cutting measures, the reduction in science and health related departments and employees top my list of idiocy. But it's hard to pick. Some are saying the cost cutting will make room for tax cuts for the wealthy without such a huge increase in the national debt. I suspect the debt ceiling will rise to the top of the fermentation again. I've not seen anything about the military budget, which seems like a huge element of discretionary spending in the budget.

    In spite of Don's day one deportation talk, there is still little unusual activity reported in our local news outlets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I still say, for me, it's just a crazy idea that a vindictive, amoral, traitorous, narcissitic, greedy, power-hungry, lying son-of-a-bitch conman should not hold the highest office in the land, no matter what party they are, or what their platform is.

    Character matters, and it amazes me that so many people I love and admire for their good character have voted for a President that doesn't deserve to lick the soles of their shoes.
    yes, I agree.. He is not temperamentally fit to be President of the United States.

    The rest of it is just needless detail, as far as I am concerned.
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    I caught a little bit of a live meeting of Trump and the Prime Minister from Japan. A hand shake and Trump hands him a nice folder with maybe an 11x14 photo in a nice folder of the the two meeting in front of the flags of their nations and shaking hands. Then he says, and oh, I have this too. And hands him what I'm almost certain was a framed photo of Trump holding up his hand after being shot in the ear. It was a quick motion. The guys is so shameless it almost made me laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I caught a little bit of a live meeting of Trump and the Prime Minister from Japan. A hand shake and Trump hands him a nice folder with maybe an 11x14 photo in a nice folder of the the two meeting in front of the flags of their nations and shaking hands. Then he says, and oh, I have this too. And hands him what I'm almost certain was a framed photo of Trump holding up his hand after being shot in the ear. It was a quick motion. The guys is shameless. It almost made me laugh.
    Well, like it or not, it was an epic moment when Trump raised his arm in defiance of any assassination bullets, It was one of the wonderfully wacky political theatre moments of June -November 2024.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Well, like it or not, it was an epic moment when Trump raised his arm in defiance of any assassination bullets, It was one of the wonderfully wacky political theatre moments of June -November 2024.
    I have wondered if, somewhere inside that 78 year old mind, he might actually might believe he was saved for a mission from the Lord to lead us out of darkness and into the promised land of cryptocurrency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Well, like it or not, it was an epic moment when Trump raised his arm in defiance of any assassination bullets, It was one of the wonderfully wacky political theatre moments of June -November 2024.
    Hardly!

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